Unterägeri, Schweiz
1:15'000, 5m, 2009
Kartenbezug: OLV Zug
Nächste Haltestelle öV: Bus: Unterägeri, Seefeld; Mobility: Unterägeri, Oberdorf;
Beschrieb
Voralpiner Wald, teilweise sehr steil. Belaufbarkeit: mässig. Sicht: gut.
Karte
Kartierung: -0
I would have appreciated to see the result list canceled. Organizers and IOF did some kind of compromise during the ceremony, while not putting the medal around competitor’s neck, but then what’s the meaning of those medals now? Half-value or no value at all?
To be honest, I don’t really care and get bored about all those discussions, I am not doing orienteering for the medal ceremonies; I am doing that mostly for emotions. And, thanks to Martin, I got more adrenalin that day than in any other WOC races.
I guess I’ll remember that day a long time.
To site just one runner: “in my opinion this is really part of the game - even on absolute top level. Therefore we run Qualification races, so that everybody gets the chance to start in a group of the best runners”. More than 20% of the runners share this view and do not see any reason for a “correct” result list. This might seem strange, but the same was found in poll among Norwegian runners in an earlier preliminary study. Many runners regard a good start position in the finals as something you have earned by a good race in the qualification heats. (We do not think this is a position that we as organisers or officials can, or should, defend. And of course if we do this whole project is meaningless.)
It also meant that I was starting 3rd from last, with only Thierry and Baptiste after me. Realistically, I was always expecting to see one or both of them, and I managed to stay in front for more than 50 minutes. To be honest, when Thierry catches you and you have the same butterflies, it would be more than a little stupid to ignore him - my speed definitely increased after then. I had no problem to run at the same speed as him though, and passing through the spectator control with 2.5km to go, I understood that I had a chance for top 10. I could not stay with Thierry after that though, and he was out of sight on the steep rocky slope to number 30.
The IOF has heroes and an invalid result list - the good and the bad, cancel the results
L'IOF a ses héros et un palmarès éronné. Le meilleur et le pire, annulons les résultats (version française)
The FFCO does not understand the stand taken by the IOF on the events that took place during the last stretch of the Relay at the World Championships.
Indeed, what happened cannot be considered as a race fact, on the one hand because it epitomizes the fair play spirit that should be shared by all orienteers in the world, on the other hand because it influenced dramatically the final result of the race.
This is why the FFCO thinks the right decision to make would have been not to constitute any prize list for the Relay 2009.This decision would have been the only one worthy of the three athletes who were the first ones to give up on the ranking to rescue another contender. Besides, in doing so, the IOF would have sent a strong message in placing fair play and ethics above results.
Instead of doing so, the IOF has not made any decision, but paid tribute to the heroes of the day in a speech delivered during the award ceremony. They might have been expecting the winners to give up on their title and all that comes with it. But this did not happen.
In the minutes following the event, numerous discussions took place between the team managers, the organizers and the IOF. Several ideas came up, one of them being to replay the Relay, later on in the year, on the occasion of the World Cup Final in Switzerland. It was suggested the Norwegian team and the French team managers should lodge a complaint but the rules did not allow it, in this case. Moreover, it appeared that this responsibility fell not on the contending nations but on the ruling body of International Orienteering. The IOF should have displayed political courage under such exceptional circumstances.
On that very day, the French Team managers handed out a written statement to the IOF President to express their views on the matter.
The French Federation thinks the Relay should not be re-run later on (which would cause the race to be erased from history). The race should be remembered for the outstanding attitude displayed by the three athletes who embodied the orienteering ethical values thoroughly. The race and the orienteering values will be best remembered if the results are overruled and therefore no result appears on the 2009 Relay Prize List. (Protest, handed on the IOF)
Bis kurz vor Posten 12 lief es sehr gut. Ich konnte ein gutes Tempo laufen und fühlte mich sicher auf der Karte. Ich versuchte sogar etwas zusätzlich zu forcieren um eventuell die beiden Läufer abzuhängen. Wahrscheinlich wurde mir aber gerade diese Tempoverschärfung zum Verhängnis. Ich war zu unvorsichtig und nahm mir nicht genügend Zeit. Es resultierte ein grober und vor allem unnötiger Fehler zu 12.
Der Schmetterling war leider nicht sehr effektiv. Er war zu kurz und die Sicht im Gelände zu gut. So holten mich die beiden Läufer gleich zu 21 wieder ein. Wieder versuchte ich etwas zu viel und verlor beim Weglaufen zu 22 die Richtung komplett. Ich hatte die kleinen Lichtungen verwechselt und den Kompass völlig unbeachtet gelassen. Leider vertrauten mir die anderen beiden Läufer wieder zu fest und folgten auf Schritt und Tritt…
Nach einem weiteren kleinen Fehler im Postenraum zu 24 liefen wir bei Nummer 26 den falschen Posten an. Ich registrierte die falsche Nummer und suchte den Herrenposten währenddem Gonon am Ende disqualifiziert werden musste.
Dass es eine außergewöhnliche Leistung war, die Contador auf den 8,6 Schlusskilometern hinauf in das Schweizer Skigebiet gezeigt hat, beweisen ein paar Zahlen: 20:36 Minuten hat er für den Anstieg gebraucht, das entspricht einem Schnitt von 25,36 Stundenkilometern. Hochgerechnet auf eine Stunde würde er 1900 Höhenmeter schaffen. Tour-Rekord. Bisher hielt die Bestmarke Bjarne Riis: 1843 Höhenmeter pro Stunde auf dem Weg nach Hautacam in den Pyrenäen, 1996. Riis war damals gedopt.
Det finns en regel som säger att man ska orientera och springa självständigt och får inte ta hjälp av andra löpare. Därför lämnade Finland in en protest mot Mikhail. Protesten avslogs av juryn med rösterna 3 mot 2. Motiveringen var att de inte hade bevis för att Mikhail hade hjälp av Daniel... Och de brydde sig inte heller om att kolla GPS-trackingen.
Jag har ändå inget emot Mikhail. Det är en svår situation. Vad gör man när någon kommer ikapp, sen tar just de vägval man själv skulle ha tagit och inte heller springer från en..? Att det är en fördel att springa flera ihop är ju kännt. Och ofta har då alla parter ofrivillig hjälp av de andra. Det är flera tidigare som tagit VM-medaljer tack vare att de sprungit efter andra. Det har också lämnats protester förr och aldrig, vad jag vet, har de gått igenom.
Problemet är enligt mig IOF:s regler och speciellt startintervalet på 2 minuter. Skulle startintervallet ha varit 3 minuter, som det var ännu i Skottland 1999, så skulle det sett annorlunda ut. Å andra sidan skedde visst detsamma just i Skottlands VM, men 3 minuter är ändå bättre än 2. I VM i Finand övergick man till 2 minuter pga direktsändning i TV. Det har det mig veterligen inte varit på långdistansen sen dess. Gafflingsslingor som används har ju visat sig ha mycket liten effekt på klunglöpning. Däremot är det vanligen just på sådana slingor man ser och har nytta av andra löpare.
Okay. Mischa Mamleev THANKED Hubmann for pulling him to this medal and as you can see here Mamleevs solo performance was far from the top 3 and GPS-Data is avalable. Ergo: There never will be more evidence than that...
It seems that packing is a pecadillo to a significant amount of top runners (See the quotes of Gristwood, Myrvold, Cejka a.s.o in this Blog). By not taking any action in such obvious cases the IOF is encouraging this mentality.
I was the Secretary General of WOC2009, so here is the inside view of what happened:
I was warned quite early by one of the refreshment guards by phone, that a big accident happened to the Swedish runner on the course. He lost consciousness and needs medical treatment asap. In 5 minutes, I was on site with an ambulance car. Being the first car there was quite a special situation. The situation was much better, than expected - Johansson did not lose his consciousness, but had big pain in his leg. Thierry Gueorgiou was holding his hand strongly and they all were quite relieved, when we arrived. Johansson managed to talk to us and in under 10 minutes, he was inside the ambulance car. The strange thing is, that we had 3 other accidents happening at the same time, but fortunately none of them was like this.
When I got back to the finish (~ 1 km), my humanic side insisted, that their is no possibility to have the race results as they are. In the meantime I knew, that the situation is not that easy.
The Organising Committee immediately started talks about what to do with the situation. The IOF Sports Director came to us immediately, telling that the IOF's view is that this is a very sad situation, but a result is a result, and it should be kept. It was quite clear, that we only have two very simple options:
1. Cancel the results, as it was 'unfair' in a way (based on IOF Foot-O Competition Rules 26.13.).
2. Keep the results as they are and give recognition to the teams involved.
We knew, that whichever decision we take, there will be a lot of people, who are clearly against the decision.
First, we asked the three teams' officials involved in the rescuing mission, but they didn't give any clear answer. Then we asked the three teams, who eventually got onto the podium because of the situation. Two of these teams were hesitant about what to do (they wanted to talk to their runners first), the third one was clearly in favour of keeping the results (his competitors were not happy of the medal they earned this way, though). So we got no clear input from the teams.
As time was passing quite fast, and the Organising Committee itself was divided in the question, we decided to have a vote. The vote resulted in a tie, and thus the Chairman's vote was decisive - and it was to keep the results as they are.
I informed all the teams involved about the decision, and we agreed with those, who happened to be on the podium, that they will not cheer, not stand up on the podium and will receive their medals in their hands. At that time, they seemed to have all agreed on the situation.
Two of the three teams involved in the rescue mission were a bit upset though, when they heard about the decision. They wanted to hand in a protest (referring to section 26.13. in the IOF Competition Rules), but after some talks, they decided not to hand in the protest.
Once again, I must say, that it was a very strange situation, where any solution would be far from ideal. We tried to follow the rules as much as possible, but still the communication now is more negative, than it was in the arena.
A lot of team leaders came over to me (Sweden included), that we made the right decision. Cruel as it is, but I'm quite convinced, that had it been the other way round, we would have received much more criticism overall.
we, the WOC2009 Organising Committee still think, that this decision - although still not a good solution - was better than the other one.
"WE, THE MEMBERS OF THE IOF, attending the 20th IOF General Assembly in Leibnitz, Austria, on the 4 August 2000, hereby declare that
It is of decisive importance to raise the profile of the sport to further the spread of orienteering to more people and new areas, and to get orienteering into the Olympic Games. The main vehicles to achieve this are:
to organise attractive and exciting orienteering events which are of high quality for competitors, officials, media, spectators, sponsors, and external partners
to make IOF events attractive for TV and Internet
We shall aim to:
- increase the visibility of our sport by organising our events closer to where people are
- make our event centres more attractive by giving increased attention to the design and quality of installations
- improve the event centre atmosphere, and the excitement, by having both start and finish at the centre
- increase television and other media coverage by ensuring that our events provide more and better opportunities for producing thrilling sports programmes
- improve media service by better catering for the needs of media representatives (in terms of communication facilities, access to runners at start/finish and in the forest, continuous intermediate time information, food and beverages, etc)
- pay more attention to promoting our sponsors and external partners in connection with our IOF events
We, the Members of the IOF, expect that these measures shall be considered by all future organisers of IOF events."
Yes. Let the o-zeugs blog rest in peace. I´ll take it down eventually. And yes, I stumbled over the decisions of the Ethics Panel regarding ...